Thread: "Follow the Shoe" Baccarat System vs "Every Other" Baccarat System

While playing online baccarat you can always look at the tote board and see the patterns of bank versus player wins. There are many systems based upon the outcome of the previous games. One such simple system is “follow the shoe”.

In the “follow the shoe” system you bet on the side that won the last hand. If you like winners and want to be on the winning side this is the perfect method for you. When one side is on a winning streak you will always be with them because that’s who you bet with.

However, when the winner constantly changes back and forth between the player and the bank, you will be the big loser. A variation of the “follow the shoe” betting system is meant to counter that situation.

In the “every other” baccarat system of betting, you bet on the side that won two hands ago. When one side is on a winning streak you will be one that side and winning yourself. The downside of this system is when there are a lot of two in a row wins by either side.

This type of play can make for more enjoyable and relaxing baccarat sessions. It avoids the inherent risks of increasing or decreasing your bet size based upon who wins prior hands. You will generally have less volatility with the “follow the shoe” or “every other” baccarat system of betting.

Originally Posted by Kromarekil

While playing online baccarat you can always look at the tote board and see the patterns of bank versus player wins. There are many systems based upon the outcome of the previous games. One such simple system is “follow the shoe”.

In the “follow the shoe” system you bet on the side that won the last hand. If you like winners and want to be on the winning side this is the perfect method for you. When one side is on a winning streak you will always be with them because that’s who you bet with.

However, when the winner constantly changes back and forth between the player and the bank, you will be the big loser. A variation of the “follow the shoe” betting system is meant to counter that situation.

In the “every other” baccarat system of betting, you bet on the side that won two hands ago. When one side is on a winning streak you will be one that side and winning yourself. The downside of this system is when there are a lot of two in a row wins by either side.

This type of play can make for more enjoyable and relaxing baccarat sessions. It avoids the inherent risks of increasing or decreasing your bet size based upon who wins prior hands. You will generally have less volatility with the “follow the shoe” or “every other” baccarat system of betting.

Follow the shoe is my first method of playing baccarat together with matingale progression.It was doing well until one day I lose big time when I hit a long zig zag run and I never play it again.

Follow the shoe, wins some, but loses more. Every other wins some but loses more, and the last 2 of 3, wins some, but loses more also. I have used them all.....and NONE WORK

Originally Posted by littogage

Follow the shoe, wins some, but loses more. Every other wins some but loses more, and the last 2 of 3, wins some, but loses more also. I have used them all.....and NONE WORK

"NONE WORK" is right, long term anyway.

Yes, you are right, my sincere apology for not saying they do not work "long term".

TRY THIS,

Last three decisions, what was weakest (opposite decision before last) or (decision before last). Bet negative progression, 1, 3, 7, 15. Once you win, look back at LAST THREE AGAIN, what was weakest. Every win keep looking back at last three. Table Risk 26 units, table goal 15-20 units. Day RISK, 78 units, Day goal 40 units.

Used it for quite a while.


THANKYOU,


P.S. I ALWAYS LET THE FIRST WIN GO BY, in all i do.............

Consider that a streak comes in many orders. Consider 3 events being predicted upon and what do you suppose the chances of guessing all 3 correctly is?

RRR
RRW
RWR
WRR
WWW
WWR
WRW
RWW

Eight possible ways that your pre-event guesses will end-up.

So if you guess PPP, you have a 1 in 8 chance of being correct with all 3.

If you guess PBP - you have the same chance of being correct.

If you gess BBP - you have the same chance of being correct.

Now look at obvious strings of results:

PPP PPP PPP PPP

Is this any less likely than

BBP BBP BBP BBP?

or PBP PBP PBP PBP?

How about

PBP PBB PBP PBB?

Consider this when you plan to bet.

Originally Posted by now here

TRY THIS,

Last three decisions, what was weakest (opposite decision before last) or (decision before last). Bet negative progression, 1, 3, 7, 15. Once you win, look back at LAST THREE AGAIN, what was weakest. Every win keep looking back at last three. Table Risk 26 units, table goal 15-20 units. Day RISK, 78 units, Day goal 40 units.

Used it for quite a while.


THANKYOU,


P.S. I ALWAYS LET THE FIRST WIN GO BY, in all i do.............

hey man, sorry, just want to ask you more about your method that you mentioned

[Last three decisions, what was weakest (opposite decision before last) or (decision before last)]

so do you mean...look at the last 3 games, for example if it's [banker] [banker] [player], then meaning the weakest is player, hence you will then bet on [player] continously until you win once??

thanks.

Originally Posted by eirescott

Consider that a streak comes in many orders. Consider 3 events being predicted upon and what do you suppose the chances of guessing all 3 correctly is?

RRR
RRW
RWR
WRR
WWW
WWR
WRW
RWW

Eight possible ways that your pre-event guesses will end-up.

So if you guess PPP, you have a 1 in 8 chance of being correct with all 3.

If you guess PBP - you have the same chance of being correct.

If you gess BBP - you have the same chance of being correct.

Now look at obvious strings of results:

PPP PPP PPP PPP

Is this any less likely than

BBP BBP BBP BBP?

or PBP PBP PBP PBP?

How about

PBP PBB PBP PBB?

Consider this when you plan to bet.

Thx

Originally Posted by tee kong kia

Follow the shoe is my first method of playing baccarat together with matingale progression.It was doing well until one day I lose big time when I hit a long zig zag run and I never play it again.

I just found out about this style of play. Didn't know what it was called, but came across this post.

I've done sim playing, and it just wins. Start at $1 unit, start with betting on either B or P, makes no difference. You bet B, f P wins, next hand is $2 on P. If B wins, bet $1 on B.

Betting progression is 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128.etc. etc.

I've done 144 hands. Of those hands, 57 were 1-bet wins. 44 were won on the second hand. 25 went to the 3rd hand before winning. 6 on the 4th hand, and 1 on the 5th and 1 on the 6th.

Granted not 1000 hands, but how does this not win over time?

I look forward to hearing how I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by maincane1

I just found out about this style of play. Didn't know what it was called, but came across this post.

I've done sim playing, and it just wins. Start at $1 unit, start with betting on either B or P, makes no difference. You bet B, f P wins, next hand is $2 on P. If B wins, bet $1 on B.

Betting progression is 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128.etc. etc.

I've done 144 hands. Of those hands, 57 were 1-bet wins. 44 were won on the second hand. 25 went to the 3rd hand before winning. 6 on the 4th hand, and 1 on the 5th and 1 on the 6th.

Granted not 1000 hands, but how does this not win over time?

I look forward to hearing how I'm wrong.

this is the same as repeat or follow the last decision fld
when you say etc etc does that mean you have an infinite bankroll and play at tables without limits because thats the only way youll win with this

Originally Posted by Starbuck

this is the same as repeat or follow the last decision fld
when you say etc etc does that mean you have an infinite bankroll and play at tables without limits because thats the only way youll win with this

the next bet would be 256 then 512. Are there table min/max at $1/$500?

What are the odds of running up to 9 losing bets in a row? Honestly, Ido not know. Anyone know how to figure that? Not saying it wouldn't happen, but what's the probability of it happening?

Which gets me thinking, whats a variable that we can control? Amount of time spent at the table. Make your money and get out.

A $500 bankroll doesn't seem like that much. I've had more for craps and blackjack.

I'm tempted to try this in real time at a casino.

Originally Posted by maincane1

the next bet would be 256 then 512. Are there table min/max at $1/$500?

What are the odds of running up to 9 losing bets in a row? Honestly, Ido not know. Anyone know how to figure that? Not saying it wouldn't happen, but what's the probability of it happening?

Which gets me thinking, whats a variable that we can control? Amount of time spent at the table. Make your money and get out.

A $500 bankroll doesn't seem like that much. I've had more for craps and blackjack.

I'm tempted to try this in real time at a casino.

i speak from experience i have lost 18 in a row once
i can lose 10 in a row often i think most people who play regularly can say the same
but my progression can handle 27 losses in a row and 54 without hitting two wins in a row so i am okay
by the way which casino lets you play $1 minimum
the lowest ive ever seen is $10 minimum but ive heard of $5 minimum at some downtown vegas places but never heard of $1 min before

Originally Posted by Starbuck

i speak from experience i have lost 18 in a row once
i can lose 10 in a row often i think most people who play regularly can say the same
but my progression can handle 27 losses in a row and 54 without hitting two wins in a row so i am okay
by the way which casino lets you play $1 minimum
the lowest ive ever seen is $10 minimum but ive heard of $5 minimum at some downtown vegas places but never heard of $1 min before

WOW! That is crazy. I was using $1 as an example. Jackson Rancheria in Northern Cal is $10-$1000.

10-20-40-80-160-320-640

How many hands had you played before seeing the 18 in a row?

Originally Posted by Kromarekil

In the “every other” baccarat system of betting, you bet on the side that won two hands ago. When one side is on a winning streak you will be one that side and winning yourself. The downside of this system is when there are a lot of two in a row wins by either side.

You have to be kidding don't you? Decision Before Last, is the biggest piece of inefficient crap ever to grace the game. I've lost count of the number of MM approaches I've used with this bet selection at the tables.

It is a frustrating way to play and one that will consume your bankroll quicker than you can say "what's with all these fcukin two's". The longest I've survived playing DBL is by using E-Star, an elongated (stretched version of Star.

1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-(5-10-15-25-40-65)

Originally Posted by maincane1

WOW! That is crazy. I was using $1 as an example. Jackson Rancheria in Northern Cal is $10-$1000.

10-20-40-80-160-320-640

How many hands had you played before seeing the 18 in a row?

Jackson Rancheria is the worst casino. You will not win there! Last time I was there, they only had two tables.

Originally Posted by green8

Jackson Rancheria is the worst casino. You will not win there! Last time I was there, they only had two tables.

How many tables do you need?

Originally Posted by tee kong kia

Follow the shoe is my first method of playing baccarat together with matingale progression.It was doing well until one day I lose big time when I hit a long zig zag run and I never play it again.

There are a system
follow last decision if lost,change to chop,
win still follow, 1,u

Well, I have to comment that there are a few really good posts in this thread, but, believe me, there is also a lot of very unsophisticated crap as well. Punters should tread carefully with this thread if you cannot separate the chaff from the wheat. And it is not about how many losses in a row. Of course that can kill your BR, but what gets the good player is a bunch of losses in a row followed by a win or two and then another long loss string. This is one reason why stopping betting after two or three losses and then bet again after a W or two does not work.
There is NO one method of BS that will make you a winner. There is NO system that will make you a winner. What will make you a winner is YOU.
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